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No.635792
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Religion aside, many people have gripes with suicide because they consider it a selfish act. But how can this be considered selfish? Unless you are responsible for more lives than your body can save then you are only increasing the good in the world. A body has 8 organs to donate, plus extra bits like corneas and tissue. You can directly save 8 people, and greatly improve their quality of life of even more. They will be eternally grateful and will owe their lives to you. Even if you happen to have at least 8 people in your life that would be sad if you died, given the noble circumstances you died under, it'd be kinda hard for them to fault you for what you did. In any case, the happiness of the people you have the organs to would probably outweigh the sadness of the people who would, and I don't want to make assumptions here everyone situation is different, but probably merely mildly displeased that you're gone. Well it's up to you to assess whether you have more value to the world alive than dead, but I think most people wanting to commit suicide would probably assess they don't. And most people who know someone who committed suicide don't go on to commit suicide themselves, they will live on regardless. So I don't know how bad you can really consider it.
The body was too long.
No.635794
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Anyway, yeah this solves a lot of problems regarding the mortality and salvific consequences of committing suicide.
The problem is one of logistics after that. How do you really get your body in a position where it can be put to its max potential, and ensure that your organs actually get used and your body doesn't get botched by the harvesters or something. Organ donation and transplanting is tricky business, time and location is of the essence. Along with how you die. That's the remaining tough portion.
Ideally, you'd also want your organs to go to someone good, though I think the act of self sacrifice remains the same regardless of what the recipient does. It would make your loved ones feel better about your death if it went to someone good, however. There isn't much way to screen for that.
I forgot how small the character limit is on here.
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why can't you be normal
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GPlease forgive my rudeness's gift to women btw
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No.635856
>>635796>>635815I mean, yeah that's true, I sure wouldn't want my clean and pristine organs to go to some norm who wasted his own organs getting drunk and norming it up. But on the other hand, people and God won't see it that way they'll just see the altruism, and it won't matter to you because you'll be dead anyway. And your organ might not go to a norm.
I'm reminded of this story from a while back about this bad kid that got a whole bunch of attention to get a heart transplant and then he got it and like a couple years later he died in a police chase after he robbed and shot an old lady. I don't want to get banned again so I won't risk trying to post a link but his name was Anthony Stokes.
>I don't think God minds suicide. If it didn't want you to die then why did he give you a life not worth living to begin with?I don't really think so either, but better safe than sorry, eternal hellfire vs hoping God doesn't actually care about suicide is a very lopsided risk, I would say.
No.635888
>>635856No, if God is actually against it he will see you trying to game the system by roping and hoping your organs get reused.
Why are so people weird with religion and trying to outsmart a God? Look at the friends and their PREDICTABLE tactics to get around the rules of their religion, as if God wouldn't be sitting there watching it and waiting to have them punished accordingly.
You can't even outsmart me, and imageboard admin, what chance would you have against a creator deity?
No.636390
>>635888It's not really outsmarting the system though. It's within system lines. It's not sneaky, I mean maybe if there was no precedent it would be dubious, but there is. Suicide for the sake of itself is bad, but it certainly isn't if it's in service of self sacrifice.
Something like suicide by cop is trying to outsmart the system. Kinda like how in 17th century and 18th century Europe suicidal people would kill babies in order to get capital punishment but because the babies are innocent they go to Heaven even if the are killed so it apparently doesn't count as a sin because of that (not sure how that negated them killing someone though)
By the way, what you say reminds me the other day a random friend made me open his car in his yard so he could get his drink out of the cupholder because apparently they're not allowed to open car doors I guess. I thought I was gonna get jumped or abducted or something. But he just wanted me to open the door.
I didn't see this post before and I don't feel like bumping this back up so…