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Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 18:29:57 No. 560335

If you've been wondering what the Ukraine/Russia conflict is about, let me give you a quick rundown.

There is an eastern portion of Ukraine called the Donbass region that is almost entirely ethnic Russians who speak Russian. For several years now they have been fighting the Ukrainian government themselves for indepenence. The Ukraine government has been oppressing and abusing them.

Russia stepped in today and declared two new independent countries out of this region, Luhansk People's Republic and Donetsk People's Republic. Some countries around the world will recognize these countries as legitimate, some won't. Russian troops have clandestinely been in these regions for years, but now they are openly there as peacekeepers for these new countries.

Why did Russia help them do this? Mostly because US and NATO have been pushing up to their border with with weapons. Putin said today that the missiles NATO is putting there can reach Moscow in 5 minutes and that it's like "having a knife to our neck".

There will be sanctions on Russia and these two new countries. Will this change anything? No, it will just make life worse for the regular people (of EU too actually, many reliant on Russian energy).

If you watch western TV idiot box propaganda, you will know none of this context or reasoning. Just "Russia bad".

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 18:41:10 No.560336

Nice Russian propaganda. This is exactly what Putin wants his citizens to think.

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 18:50:33 No.560337

Your schizo post is nothing but "Russia good". Kys shill

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 18:58:24 No.560339

Instead of making fun of you, I'm going to ask you to sit and really think about why Russia only cares about these ``ethnic'' Russians when they're around the Black Sea.

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 19:13:14 No.560341

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>>560337
So you have no problem with me buying the house across the street from yours and placing missiles on it pointed at you right?

I mean what's wrong buddy, you wouldn't like that?

Because Ukraine is a corrupt country run by foreign business interests, not the citizens' interests. Ukraine is a country that is bought by globohomo capitalist foreigners that use it for many things, including point missiles at Russia on their border. Why? Putin said in his speech today that the west is desperate to make an enemy out of Russia despite their post-1991 goodwill efforts because Russia is such a physically large and independent country. It literally takes up too much of the world map and doesn't bow to globohomo.

>>560339
I told you why. Russia wants more defense against western US and NATO aggression.

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 19:23:34 No.560342

>>560341
You said they're trying to defend Moscow. The Black Sea is the furthest point from Moscow on Russia's Western border. You didn't actually think about it. I even asked you nicely.

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 19:32:22 No.560344

>>560342
Crimea and Donbass are ethnically Russian. That's why Russia can just walk in a take them, because they were welcomed in. Taking non-Russian sections of Ukraine would be met with actual fighting and are much higher hanging fruits. It also limits invasion routes from the south and sea access. Why not?

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 19:35:27 No.560345

>>560344
Oh I see, so it's okay for Mexico to take whichever parts of Texas have enough Mexicans? Then send more people across the border, and take those areas 20 years later? Man, I have this funny feeling I've heard of another group that does that.

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 20:09:32 No.560352

dont think this guy understood the point of haibane renmei or aria based on how he posts.

diagnosis: schizophrenia

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 20:21:43 No.560353

>>560352
I think it's safe to say you didn't understand Aria if you make fun of people you think are mentally ill.

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 20:29:24 No.560354

but russia is bad and putin is literally worse than hitler

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 20:35:47 No.560355

>>560345
Probably a good reason why America should control it's border.

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 20:36:21 No.560356

>>560352
>>560353
>if you watch a cartoon you need to agree with everything it says
NPC moment

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 20:36:38 No.560357

>>560353
try reading my post again I didn't make fun of whatmin

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 20:58:18 No.560358

>>560357
You made a sarcastic post about schizophrenics. You are not an Aria person.

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 21:00:31 No.560359

>>560352
How does it conflict?

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 21:26:26 No.560361

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noboardmin is a dumb fucking LOSER

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 21:42:49 No.560362

RUSSIA IS LE BAD

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 22:10:29 No.560364

whatmin is a lying deceitful piece of shit.

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 22:26:34 No.560366

>>560353
next you're going to say lain is a thinking man's show?

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 22:44:28 No.560367

Russians are pretty intelligent as evidenced by the large number of famous mathematicians they've produced over the years. People who think they'd do something that would lead them into a world war are fools.

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 23:20:14 No.560368

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fuck logocentrism fuck capitalism fuck the west fuck fascism fuck america fuck hollywood fuck democracy fuck liberalism fuck humanism fuck marxism fuck positivism fuck metaphysics fuck teleology fuck disney fuck christianity

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 23:27:17 No.560370

FUCK WHATMIN

Anonymous 02/22/22 (Tue) 23:36:20 No.560371

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>>560366
is that a jojo reference

Anonymous 02/23/22 (Wed) 00:59:23 No.560383

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>>560345
Was going to type this and I see whatmin hasn't replied either. Remember whatmin just because you have the biggest mouth and 24/7 access to the internet doesn't make you able to judge subjects and make concrete justifications.

You are are a dumb shit. Go read more wiki articles and copy that jumbo into your formative paragraphs.

Anonymous 03/07/22 (Mon) 07:02:15 No.560928

When Russia bombs the US, Russia invades up tot he Reign, Russia then looses loosing almost all of its men, in their more likely than not their own chemical weapons attack against Germany, pollard, and the rest of the eastern block then simultaneously a massive experimental like weapon that shakes the earth will sink 1/3 of England & the coast line of all of northern eureope, France, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, further into the eastern coast of the US, Canada, Brazil, Mexico, Cuba, Western Coast of Africa, Ireland, Greenland, Honduras, Beilize, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama (perhaps the entire country?), Columbia, Venezuela, Guinea, French Guinea, Uruguay, and Argentina.

This will be Russia's last ditch effort to win the war, but alas they too are destroyed in the structure of their army & all of the peoples of Russia will morn the loss of life across the earth & their brotheren as their country Looses the site of why they fought & the death powder of war ravages in nuclear holocaust.

In this the troops of Russia will have run low on all supplies as they try to flee only to die.

This will have left the entirety of the eastern block weak. NATO broken. England turned in on itself with Ireland. The US left mostly dead. All of catholic Central & South America severely weakened starving from fogs of nuclear exposure & the lack of coastal cities.

Here China will have pushed too hard & too fast unorganized & too clumsy for its own goof. They will break past South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Japan into the West Coast of the US.

Anonymous 03/07/22 (Mon) 07:04:38 No.560929

The US will easily push back in realization & defense many of who were regular citizens.Japan will destroy the Chinese communist party perhaps.

In the wekwned state of all post-christian nations & the West a new Islamic empire made of the radical ragtag forces will unite under the Cresent moon. There they invade into the already bloodied soils of Europe from the East & through Italy. Italy will be defeated over night which is unthinkable as the logistics of the new Islamic empire seemingly spawmwd in but months. From Italy the Muslims of Europe will have already decended upon France as they fled from the Eastern war zone of Europe.

France will appear split & in chaos etween atheistic communists & socialit liberal Europeans & those same Muslims joing together with the ones erupting from the Italian pensiulia. However the Muslims underestimate the new russian kingdom rebelled against the Russian republic we see today.

When Paris burns in the French Civil War the long foretold Great Catholic monarch will emerge with faithful catholics pushing back both waring parties of France. This is the start of the last great Roman empire. He will win back all of german states & Italy with the already stumbling Islamic empire supply lines and unorganized forces.

The monarch will meet with the great catholic pope blessed by Peter & Paul themselves.

Anonymous 03/07/22 (Mon) 07:06:25 No.560930

The holy monarch will fight side by side with the new ruddian empire & in doing so another monarch. 3 monarchs total representing Father Son, Holy Ghost answering to the Pope -, of which the French monarch will have been given loyalty by the other 2 monarchs. The 3 will push into Constinapole & raise the cross. Islam will be pushed into the horn of Africa where it will die forever never to be seen as it was again. This will lead to a reign of peace across the earth devoted to the catholic church with few unbelievers & plentiful faithful for some 56 years when the French monarch sits on the throne of Jerusalem.

Then the antichrist emerges.

All of this comes to pass with Russia after a sudden war breaks out in the middle east, opposing warships meet against one another in the meditrainain sea, and 3 assanations in Eastern Europe of 3 leaders.

Anonymous 03/07/22 (Mon) 07:11:32 No.560931

Anonymous 03/07/22 (Mon) 07:15:03 No.560933

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>>560928
>>560929
>>560930
>>560931

Anonymous 03/11/22 (Fri) 12:55:43 No.561165

>>560933
Summery: Fate Stay is a cheap rip off of catholic prophecy & if russia doesnt be ome consecrated the Immaculate Heart than Russia is going to nuke the US.

Anonymous 03/11/22 (Fri) 13:30:16 No.561167

>>561165
I thought you said you were done with imageboards forever

Anonymous 03/11/22 (Fri) 13:58:54 No.561169

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really love this war and think its great hope lots of norms die in it

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 08:27:32 No.561460

this didnt age well

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 08:32:28 No.561461

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>>561460
What's wrong about it now? Yeah Russia invaded the rest of Ukraine but I didn't say they wouldn't.

Still is how it started and largely their motives tbh.

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 09:26:51 No.561462

>>561461
Because it's pure kremlin propaganda and only a contrarian super-retard like yourself could still believe in it after they actually attacked despite fervently denying they would. No, this isn't about the people in donbass or crimea, you fucking retard, it's about the fact that ukraine has huge untapped gas and oil deposits in the east, and them not being a puppet vassal state and getting buddy buddy with the west poses an existential threat to russia because they're a petrostate shithole.

The NATO argument is especially hilarious because russia already borders multiple NATO members and this little adventure just made Finland and Sweden consider membership as well because russia proved the world that NATO's existence is 100% justified.

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 09:55:51 No.561464

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>>561462
So you really think it didn't have anything to do with them wanting to stop NATO/western weapons and influence in Ukraine?

You know back in the day the USSR wanted to put missiles in Cuba pointed at the US and we flipped out. Basically the same thing, although it's only one of the reasons definitely not the only.

I'm sure wanting Ukraine's natural resources is a bonus incentive but there is no way they would have started this over gibs me dat when Russia is already a massive country with ample natural resources they haven't even touched.

I don't personally agree with going past Donbass and fully invading, but at the same time the more I see "Please die so we can keep Zelensky and the oligarchs in power over this US/friendish puppet state called Ukraine" the more I sympathize with Russia.

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 10:40:03 No.561466

>>561464
>So you really think it didn't have anything to do with them wanting to stop NATO/western weapons and influence in Ukraine?

And pray tell, what possible reason would make the Ukranians ask for NATO/western millitary support? It's almost like russia propped up an insurrection in one part of their country and invaded another one because popular unrest deposed their puppet. Ukraine military was basically non-existent pre-2014. Funny how cause and effect works.

>You know back in the day the USSR wanted to put missiles in Cuba pointed at the US and we flipped out. Basically the same thing, although it's only one of the reasons definitely not the only.

Please tell me what NATO country bordering russia has nuclear weapons stationed in their borders? Oh, right, there are none. Meanwhile there's a bunch of nukes in Kaliningrad. Curious.

>I'm sure wanting Ukraine's natural resources is a bonus incentive but there is no way they would have started this over gibs me dat when Russia is already a massive country with ample natural resources they haven't even touched.

What part of being a petrostate shithole do you not understand? Like 40% of Russia's GDP stems from exporting energy to Europe. What do you think would happen to Russia if Europe started getting that gas and oil from Ukraine instead because the Russians are absolute fucking dicks?

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 10:41:57 No.561467

>>561464
>>561466

>"Please die so we can keep Zelensky and the oligarchs in power over this US/friendish puppet state called Ukraine"

Do you unironically think the Ukrainian people are dying for Zelensky or any other politician and not because, I do not know, their fucking homes are being invaded and their countrymen are being killed? Also, imagine decrying corruption and oligarchs while fucking defending Russia, Jesus, how does the doublethink not make your head explode?

TL:DR you're fucking retard whose whole world view stems from being a contrarian as a coping mechanism for being a total fuck up at life loser

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 10:55:52 No.561468

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>>561467
>Do you unironically think the Ukrainian people are dying for Zelensky or [oligarchs/foreigners with their hand in the cookie jar]
Yes.

Before the sanctions at least, Russia taking over would've just been a straight upgrade for the Ukrainian people and many people actually wanted that.

>TL:DR you're fucking retard whose whole world view stems from
Your worldview is 100% controlled by the western narrative. You do realize in some places you're the contrarian?

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 11:03:24 No.561469

slavshits get the rope

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 11:34:01 No.561470

>>561468
>Yes.
>Before the sanctions at least, Russia taking over would've just been a straight upgrade for the Ukrainian people

Yeah, Russia's such a great country to live in.
As I've said, you're a delusional retarded contrarian american. There's a reason that every eastern european country that suffered under the russian boot absolutely hates their guts.

>and many people actually wanted that

That's what the russians thought as well and expected the people were gonna welcome them with bread and salt and that the war would be over in three days. They even sent anti-riot police units alongside the military. It has been already evaporating since the events of 2014 but I'd say any pro-russian sentiment after this is completely dead in the water.

>You do realize in some places you're the contrarian?

Yeah, in authoritarian shitholes like russia where calling the war in ukraine a war will get you a prison sentence and where state sanctioned tv hosts scream at military veterans for wrongthink because they wanted a minute of silence for all the russian soldiers that got killed in ukraine.

There's obviously also china, another paragon of free thought you adore but even they aren't particularly enthusiastic about the shit's putin doing.

Also gotta love how you completely ignored the other post that details how fucking wrong you are about everything must be a bitch having suck a fuckhueg I'm always right about everything ego

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 14:19:49 No.561473

love discussing politics on touhou/anime/idol imageboards

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 16:52:52 No.561474

its 2d/random you can discuss literally whatever you want as long as you dont post 3dpd or western shite

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 19:06:38 No.561480

This is now a western artist hate thread. Western artists will never be Japanese/Korean/Taiwanese.

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 19:17:02 No.561481

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>>561480
Ahh yes, superior Japanese artists

Girugamesh!

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 20:18:56 No.561482

accidentally liked a western artist's drawing once. I instantly unliked it when I found out he was american.

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 20:20:05 No.561483

we all know the donbass region and that other region on the western side are all on or close to ukraines shale gas reserves and crimea has oil reserves the whole protecting russians thing is old age propaganda from hitlers playbook why would putin care about russians they bombed a russian apartment back in like 2004 as a false flag to justify a war with the chechens now hes talking about "purifying" russia pretty much all putin worshipers got flipped like usual bootlickers are never right

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 20:25:47 No.561484

>>561480
I will do my reps. I will become Japanese. ٩(◕‿◕｡)۶

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 20:48:29 No.561485

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I was supposed to be born as a Japanese teengirl but something went wrong at the last minute and I got assigned to an American cel instead and if that wasn't bad enough they cut off my foreskin for no reason at all

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 20:55:34 No.561486

>>561483
It's not really about ebul bootlickers vs freedom fighters, both sides of the conflict are represented by authoritarian discourses (in case with the West it's all that end of history + defensive democracy shit) and the war itself isn't essentially any different from any other that has happened in the past 20 years. People give so much shit about it just because this time it's Russia in the position the US usually is, i.e. dropping bombs on poorly equipped goatfuckers.

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 21:06:40 No.561487

STFU

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 21:17:45 No.561488

>>561482
same i always check the artists nationality before following anyone on pixiv

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 21:45:50 No.561489

was supposed to be an anime idol girl wonder if i was switched at birth

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 23:06:51 No.561490

>>561474
You don't understand what the random part means you dumb newteen

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 23:18:08 No.561491

>>561490
Go back there.

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 23:24:47 No.561493

>>561491
You first.

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 23:29:36 No.561496

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>>561490

Anonymous 03/16/22 (Wed) 23:44:28 No.561498

>>561486
i know that russia is doing to ukraine what the us did to iraq but since its a superpower we get away with a lot we were responsible for the venezuelan economic collapse so im well aware of how bad us and nato are but op is mocking western talking points which are all true russia is bad ukraine isnt perfect either they have a bloody history during ww2 and glorify their own hitler-esque leader today but theres no justification for invading ukraine and bombing civilian homes

Anonymous 03/17/22 (Thu) 01:57:32 No.561500

>>561496
Suigining.

Anonymous 03/22/22 (Tue) 14:23:26 No.561732

>>561498
Yes whatmin is retarded for implying that any side of the conflict is morally justified in its actions but so are you for believing that such actions need moral justification in the first place. War taken per se is inherently beyond morals, because the essence of war lies in destruction of subject-object relations which serve as a provider of ethos. Any moral evaluation of war happens beyond the conflict itself, ergo these evaluations are subject to different interpretations, none of which is privileged over any other. The same is true regarding le innocent civilians narrative being pushed right now. Just take a minute to ask yourself, at what point did these people become poor victims and ceased to be unenlightened masses, dumb commoners, plebs, even ``norms" ffs? Their deaths don't mean anything on their own. It is only processed through the lenses of a particular discourse that they gain a coherent meaning. And in the case of current war both discourses - "the West" and "Russia" - will interpret them in order to enforce their own oppressive tendencies, the West perhaps even more so as it is rooted in ideology a lot deeper than Russia.